Matt Cooper
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Emboldened perhaps by the weakness of the political establishment in the wake of the Lisbon referendum and the distraction caused by the imploding economy, the Catholic church has been flexing its once-powerful muscles.
First we had Cardinal Sean Brady’s claim that the rejection of Lisbon could be attributed to public dissatisfaction with the secularism of the European project — a contentious claim, to put it mildly. Now the Catholic church is pressurising the state on educational provision, subtly making a claim to re-establish its special status in this area.
The state is opening 26 new national schools this autumn and plans as many as 400 over the next decade. All of them will be built and funded by the state. With 8,000-10,000 children entering the primary system per annum for the next five years, this is one of the most urgent issues on the government’s agenda.
The Catholic church wants at least some of these schools to be run according to its ethos, on a denominational or sectarian basis. Presumably, this will be under the auspices of lay Catholics, given the fall-off in teaching priests, nuns and brothers. It’s not difficult to see why the church is staking a claim. Apart from genuinely believing that children should be schooled in the Catholic faith, the best way of sustaining the faithful’s numbers is to grab children young and squeeze gratitude from parents for providing sought-after school places.
The church may even sense that a vulnerable government would agree to this request, thereby currying favour with a still significant section of the electorate. And if Bertie Ahern were still taoiseach, its chances of pulling this off would be quite high. Ahern may have been a typical, à la carte Catholic in his personal behaviour, but when it came to politics, he retained much of the traditional deference of government to the establishment church. He was slow to condemn the sexual or physical abuse of children by clerics, for example, and was quick to qualify any criticism with praise for the good work done by others within Catholic organisations.
The 2002 deal struck with the Catholic church on the compensation it should pay to victims of its abuse was brokered in almost scandalous secrecy and on terms that were highly favourable to the guilty party. While Ahern showed himself well able to respect those of different religious faiths north of the border, he was always cognisant of his Catholicism in his legislative and political actions in the south. Would he have pushed the divorce referendum had he been taoiseach in 1995, for example?
Brian Cowen, on the other hand, has never been one to wear his religious beliefs on his forehead, as Ahern famously does every Ash Wednesday, marking the beginning of the Catholic feast of Lent. Cowen’s reaction to the pressure now being exerted by the Catholic church will tell us much about the man.
Handing control of many of the new schools to Catholic-dominated boards of management, to be run according to a Catholic ethos, would be the wrong decision, yet it might be an easier political one than saying no. Ignoring the demand might be seen as an extension of the same sin that Brady has accused the EU of committing: denying the role of God and caving in to secularism.
There are many reasons for avoiding the easy option, and the best is that the state should show no preference for one religion over another, even though the vast majority subscribe to Catholicism. The idea that the government would facilitate discrimination in any new state-funded school, by giving first right of access to children whose parents had a particular faith — and that it would then teach according to a religious belief — is not appropriate to any republic.
The contention that doing so somehow makes for a “better” society — as suggested in the Irish Independent last week by the Iona Institute, a right-wing think-tank — is unproven, self-serving and frankly insulting to those of no religious faith. Indeed, while the state should tolerate and respect religious belief, it should not promote it by use of public funds. Of course, the situation is complicated by the historic and current role of the religious orders in providing much of the country’s schooling and by the state’s funding of existing denominational schools. This is the legacy of an era in which the state did not have the inclination, money or land, and religious groups stepped in. Now most of the finance for schools comes from the state and management of many schools has been surrendered by religious orders.
Nobody is suggesting that existing schools should be stripped of their religious affiliations, but as they are funded largely by the state, they should not operate a policy of discrimination against members of other faiths. And, in fairness, they don’t. They should also, if requested, make their facilities available for private after-hours classes for members of other faiths. Indeed, there is a strong argument that religion — Catholic or otherwise — should not be taught as a subject during the normal school day. Far better for it to be an optional extra, paid for privately by adherents in after-school hours. The only concession that need be made by the state is a guarantee to make its facilities available.
Brian Hayes, Fine Gael’s education spokesman, was mauled by the media this month when he made the reasonable suggestion that children insufficiently proficient in English should be streamed into separate classes until ready to join the mainstream. His use of the word “segregation” was condemned, but he was not proposing permanent exclusion, as children would be readmitted to the mainstream once their language skills were good enough. Permanent segregation is what faith-based schools do effectively: they create barriers between people and emphasise their differences.
Organisations such as the Iona Institute deny this, but prejudices are formed at a young age. If you tell children they are being kept away from others of a different faith, and that their schooling is somehow inferior to yours, the potential for trouble is obvious. We need look no further than Northern Ireland if we want to test the failures of that policy. Catholics say they believe people of all religions should be allowed to educate children according to their religious beliefs. They should be free to receive religious instruction, but they should pay for it themselves.
Even if Catholics and other faiths were to win the argument about denominational status for new schools, the state cannot afford to indulge them. It makes no economic sense to build separate schools in the same area for different religions. The most pressing issue in Irish primary schools these days is not the religious status of management, but underfunding by the state, which leaves a shortfall that must be met by parents. Last week Saint Vincent de Paul said it was running out of money for helping clients with their back-to-school expenses. The state has performed well in terms of building new schools and providing teachers, but not in funding day-to-day operations. That’s where the money needs to be spent, rather than in indulging the religious claims of Catholics, or any other faith groups.

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The hypocrites are the churches in regards faith schools. Children deserve to be educated to think and question. Why are religious leaders and goverments so afraid of this fact?
iain rae, tunbridge wells, U.k.
Almost everyday there is something on the news about schools falling behind in education, why should the money go into religion specific schools when it could go into improving education for everyone?!
Heather, Alfreton, UK
Living in a County that still has selective education, faith schools are the only secondary provision that are comprehensive and for some funny reason are popular with parents who are from all faiths and none!
Si, Canterbury,
Iftikhar Ahmad: "Bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models." State schools are social institutions for developing future members of our society as a whole. We need teachers & role models for a coherent society, not for private religion.
David Jones, Loughborough, UK
Our children should be educated with facts, not baseless superstition. Surely it's time we grew up and consigned these divisive and nonsensical cults to the dustbin where they belong - and school is the best place to start.
Al, weybridge, UQ
Instead of the state paying a single penny for any of these schools, the parents themselves should pay. They have chosen to bring human beings into existence so they alone should pay all costs. It is completely unjustifiable for childless to pay for irresponsible lifestyle choices of others.
Jason Mead, Bristol, England
Salaam
Bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models.
There are hundreds of state schools where Muslim children are in majority. In my opinion, all such schools may be designated as Muslim community schools with Muslim board of governors
Iftikhar Ahmad, London, United Kingdom
It's a start, but all can get teaching that is right for them by abolishing mixed ability teaching so that the dim do not have to struggle to keep up, the bright left to themselves and the normal to wait for the slow. Because it all goes at the pace of the slowest standards keep falling.
R Mason, London, UK
Here in the US the evangelicals are trying to gobble the power with their faux religion; same techniques that the Catholic church centralized hundreds of years ago and which they still rely on today. These two groups will get together and become even more powerful in the future.
jmarcus, mill spring N.c., usa
Religion is socially divisive and never more so than in schools where impressionable children are indoctrinated with the beliefs of their elders' religion and taught to despise and in some cases hate those who don't believe what they do. Society is the poorer and we all suffer.
David Bennington, Ruislip, UK
I don't want my taxes to pay to indoctrinate children in a faith I do not believe in. Parents and charities should hire school premises and supply qualified teachers for out of school hours classes in their beliefs, or provide instruction off-site. At school, pupils should learn to evaluate creeds.
Adrian, Taunton,
Tim Fellows: "the authenticity of the (Christian) beliefs studied in RE was rubbished by the teacher. This can be brainwashing too! "
Not if the criticism is factual. There are numerous inconsistencies, contradictions and non sequiturs in the gospels that clergymen are always keen to hide.
Chris, Dorking, UK
Why can't we follow the French secular education system and abandon faith schools altogether?
Doug Mackenzie, Sandbach, England
One foundation of British education is the 1944 Education Act provision for children to be educated in line with parents' beliefs. Faith schools -- C of E, Roman, Jewish and Islamic are popular with parents and provide strong values for a society where values have eroded.
Joseph, London, UK
Um, excluding the religion of most British people from schools is not a value-neutral decision, Matt.
Why the venom? I'm not an RC, but if RC's want to send their children to be educated in their own religion, surely that is their right? And they pay taxes too...
Roger Pearse, Ipswich,
The whole of the UK and all she represents was built on The Holy Bible.
Take it away and the systems collapse.
Isnt that whats happening right now.
Put it back and you will reverse the trend- to- destruction.
Soon the hoodlums and the Islamic extremists will own Britain if you dont save her.
G Gibson, Sydney, Australia
I wonder how many readers had the same experience as me - the authenticity of the (Christian) beliefs studied in RE was rubbished by the teacher. This can be brainwashing too!
Tim Fellows, Worcester, UK
Organised religion and the fanaticism that often goes with it is the cause of most wars. The Catholic Church is just desperately trying to claw back some influence in society when most people realise that the Church is mostly irrelevant to their everyday lives. Its an anachronism that will die out.
Steve Chapman, Liverpool, UK
Iftikhar Ahmad, London
So basically what you're saying is, muslims don't like the british schooling system? Nobody is forcing you to stay here.
Martin, London, ENGLAND
Muslim youths are angry, frustrated and extremist because they have been mis-educated and de-educated by the British schooling. Muslim children are confused because they are being educated in a wrong place at a wrong time in state schools with non-Muslim monolingual teachers.
Iftikhar Ahmad, London, United Kingdom
Brainwashing children in a religion through schooling is a form intellectual abuse - I'm confident, however, that priests will continue to make a good job of it.
Des, Edinburgh,