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A fresh attempt to ban parents smacking their children is being launched today by a cross-party group of MPs.
More than 400 organisations, including the NSPCC and the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, are backing the new bid to give children the same protection against assault as adults.
The last attempt to outlaw smacking four years ago was defeated despite a rebellion by 47 Labour MPs. At the time a compromise was agreed, tightening the law by outlawing punishment which left physical marks or caused mental harm.
Now MPs are urging ministers to allow them to vote according to their conscience when they debate the Children and Young Persons Bill.
However, despite Conservative and Liberal Democrat MPs being given a free vote on the issue, Labour's leadership has made it clear it will not do so.
Kevin Barron, the Labour chairman of the all-party Commons Health Committee who is leading the campaign, said: “We must act now to end the legal approval of hitting children.
"It is the responsibility of Parliament to ensure that the physical integrity and human dignity of every person is respected. The current law allowing so-called ‘reasonable punishment’ of children is unjust, unsafe and unclear, and must be abolished once and for all.”
Insiders say the amendment has little chance of ever becoming law. But campaigners say that a vote will now be closer, particularly because more than 100 Labour MPs have indicated their support for a free vote. Some backbenchers say they are prepared to defy Government whips if ministers do not back down.
Natascha Engel, a Labour MP, said: “We don’t want to talk about rebellions at a time when we should be showing a united front. But many of us are being put in an impossible position of choosing between party loyalty and a reform that we believe in passionately. A free conscience vote is such a simple and potentially popular way forward.”
Many Labour Peers are also calling for a free vote. But a Government review last year showed there was scant public support for a change in the law.
Sir William Utting, spokesman for the Children Are Unbeatable! Alliance, said: “This is one of those principled reforms on which politicians must make a stand whatever the pollsters might say. It is about being serious about equality and about the human rights of the child. The law must send the clear message that hitting children is as unacceptable as hitting anyone else.”
According to the last major British study into smacking, nine out of ten children said they had been hit.
A report published last week by the UN committee monitoring the implementation of the Convention on the Rights of the Child in Britain called for the legal defence of “reasonable punishment” to be scrapped.
Of the 27 members of the European Union, only four (including Britain) have failed to give children equal protection from assault or made a commitment to do so.
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To Adrian, France,
Yes, and ever since corporal punishment was outlawed in schools in the 1980s, the behaviour of British children has become far worse. Would you like to teach in the British schools of today? No wonder many teachers are leaving the profession.
Hanna, Taipei,
As a teacher I feel that classroom behaviour is becoming more and more intolerable. Children do not have respect for adults. If they are not disciplined early in life by sanctions and yes smacking when necessary then the classroom is going to become an even more difficult place to be.
Michelle , Merseyside,
Grow up and leave parents alone to discipline their kids as they see fit. The problem is, many kids don't get enough cracks around the ear.
Wouldn't these servants of the public (MP's), yes remember you are only servants, be better off trying to stop all the stabbings.
tony, Leeds, UK
Absolutley ridiculous, child cruelty is one thing and totally unacceptable, smacking your children for discipline is a parents decision, they have to live with themselves. Ban smacking and years down the line we will be faced with another increases in thugs on the street with no respect for adults.
Kevin Rough, Portsmouth, UK
So the powers that be wish us to take responsibility for our childrens behaviour & at the same time remove any sanction that can be applied if they misbehave.
Yet again the government want to give them the power whilst we keep the responsibility. I hope this ridiculous bill is quashed.
Simon Morris, Lichfield, UK
And we wonder why we have so much violent crime being committed by young children. No respect for the law, no respect for teachers, and no respect for parents. If the bleeding heart liberals get their way the Britain will deserve everything it gets!
Sharkie, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
My father did not need to hit us in order to discipline us. We knew he was in charge and while mum was our favourite it is dad who we can thank for our self-discipline.
You don't need to hit your child, you just need to stop trying to be their best friend, and start being a parent.
Mark, London,
Where is the line drawn? Occasionally you have to grab a child to stop them from causing harm to themselves - if this is deemed to be done 'too aggressively' - does that make the parent an abuser? It is all about the perception of the onlooker and not the real business of parenting.
Claire, Solihull, UK
Bringing in laws to protect children against physically abusive parents will only serve to make the job of good parents harder. MPs should stick to the job WE are paying them to do as public servants, not interfere in their usual nannying way.
jim reeder, stockport, UK
Hitting is definitely the wrong aproach in disciplining children. Considering corporal punishment was only outlawed in schools in the 1980s which horrifies my French counterparts where it was banned a considerable time before.Hitting only leaves mental scars ,anger more rebellion etc for a long time
adrian, marseille, france
As a child I feared a smack far less than other punishments - being kept in from play, losing a treat etc. It hurt for a few minutes and was a bit shaming but was over quickly and did not interfere with my life.
Chelsea, London, UK
Children need clear boundaries, sometimes for their own safety. Smacking can be an appropriate part of a caring and loving approach to parenting. Shame MP's are not so hot on protecting the rights of children before they are born... abortion is surely worse than smacking?
Simon, London, UK
my children are 18mths and 21/2 yrs and i have to smack them if they do something that could cause harm or be dangerous to one or both of them. My son came into the kitchen while i was making dinner and grabbed hold of a sharp knife. I smacked his hand and he got the message. he wont do it again.
Gary Crawford, paisley,
When are you going to ban circumcision?
maarten, Brighton,
A smart smack on the bottom is a universally understood language. To a child, it relates a repeated action of disobedience to a reaction of painful retribution. I could not agree more with Beth, London that sometimes 'Conversation' is simply ineffective.
John, Tenbury Wells., UK
What is all of this "allow them to vote on their conscience" business and why is it being tolerated? I was under the impression that MPs should vote in representation of their constituents? Anything else is a gross misuse of the power that has been given to them by the people they're ignoring.
Matthew, Stockport, UK
Legislation will not prevent those parents that take disipline too far from continuing to do so, it will only penalise the majority that believe more than ever that disipline is one of the most important factors when raising a child.
Stephen Kerr-Morgan, Spalding, UK
There's a world of difference between controlled discipline and hitting out in anger or frustration. There are times when you just can't reason with a 3 yo boy, you can't get into a 'conversation' about the rights and wrongs on continually drawing on the walls.
Beth, London, UK