Ben Webster, Transport Correspondent
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Britain is to become the only European country that allows motorists to have at least one alcoholic drink and still be legally fit to drive.
The Times has learnt that the Government has changed its mind about reducing the limit from 80 to 50 milligrams of alcohol per 100 millilitres of blood, despite evidence that a lower limit would save 65 lives a year.
Road safety groups believe that the existing limit encourages people to take chances and have a drink or two before driving. With a 50mg limit, drivers would be at risk of prosecution after just one drink.
In mainland Europe, the limit is either 50mg or 20mg. The Republic of Ireland still has an 80mg limit but says that it will reduce it to 50mg next year.
The Association of Chief Police Officers, the British Medical Association and the Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents all support a reduction to 50mg.
In July Sir Liam Donaldson, the Chief Medical Officer, said that the limit for drivers aged 17 to 20 should be cut to zero.
Research by University College London found that lowering the limit for all drivers to 50mg would prevent 65 deaths and 230 injuries a year in Britain. It would also save the economy £119 million a year by reducing medical costs and lost working time.
Last year Stephen Ladyman, then road safety minister, said that the Government was in favour of moving to a 50mg limit and would include the proposal in a public consultation.
But his successor, Jim Fitzpatrick, has told The Times that the consultation document, to be published within weeks, will not propose a lower limit.
He said: “It will not be recommending a reduction from 80 to 50. We are not convinced that dropping to 50 is the right answer. Drivers who are between 50 and 80mg are not the ones we are most worried about. It’s the ones above 100.
“If you look at a comparison with other countries which have 50 rather than 80, our safety levels compare very favourably.”
In the past five years, Britain has lost its place at the top of the European Union’s road safety league. The Netherlands and Sweden now have lower road death rates, and have been more successful in reducing drink-drive crashes. In the Netherlands the limit is 50mg and in Sweden 20mg.
Mr Fitzpatrick said that the consultation would focus instead on better enforcement of the existing limit. Police could gain new powers to stop and test drivers at random rather than, as at present, needing to have suspicion that an offence is being committed.
The courts may also gain new sentencing powers to require repeat or serious offenders to have “alcolocks” fitted to their cars after they have served bans. Alcolocks work by linking the ignition to an on-board breathalyser.
By leaving the alcohol limit unchanged, the Government will avoid the awkward question of whether to introduce a lower penalty for registering just over 50mg. At present, anyone caught drink-driving serves a minimum ban of 12 months. Most countries that have lower limits only fine drivers and give them penalty points for minor breaches.
Andrew Howard, head of road safety at the AA, said that the motoring organisation used to oppose any lowering of the limit but had changed its position recently.
“We surveyed 14,000 of our members and found that 70 per cent were in favour of reducing the limit. So our position now is that we would not oppose a reduction,” he said. “However, we have to ask whether a policeman who finds a driver with an alcohol level of 55mg would be better giving him a thorough telling-off rather than spending two hours taking him to the station. That policeman could be more useful out on the roads looking for someone two or three times the limit who poses a much greater danger.”
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I believe that reducing a limit of alcohol in blood is a good idea, since it would make a driver think twice before drinking. A drunk driver's reaction is slower, so he could brake too late...
Nailya, Moscow, Russia
The AA should base their policy on science, not on what the majority of their members think, for that assumes the general populous to be sufficiently intelligent to have investigated the science and come to a logical conclusion, hardly a valid assumption.
Frank, Oxford, UK
Reducing the limit to 50mg would just be gesture politics because it would make no difference in practice.
The crucial factor is how intelligently you drive, not whether your alcohol level is below 80mg or 50mg.
Safe driving, as ever, entails taking ALL the relevant factors into consideration.
Dave, Southampton, UK
Why do the Courts in the UK treat drunk drivers who have a drink problem more leniently than those caught out after one too many on a night out?
Edna Burbridge, Engreve, FRance
Why is it that motorists who haven't been drinking who kill on the roads don't receive an automatic disqualification? Failing a breath test is being caught risking an accident.
Why is risking an accident considered to be far more serious than actually having an accident ?
Cliff, Portishead, UK
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This is a headline from today's Times. For all of you who think that drinking and driving is okay I suggest you read the article and then go home and tell your wives it wouldn't matter if your kids got killed.
Chris Martin, Manchester,
I remember reading somewhere that you could get 60mg from your grannies sherry trifle!
Common sense seems to have entered at last, but there are many other ways to save 65 lives or more.
Bill Glanvill, Horsham, Sussex
How many rural poeple will suffer from depression and worse if deprived of a relaxing social drink at a pub?
What is the effect on the landlords and bar staff when the pubs have to close: depression, unemployment costs, etc?
Gilbert, Cheltenham,
The law does not discriminate between motorists who blatantly drive in a state of total inebriation and conscientious drivers caught out when the residual alcohol level in their blood from a previous night out provides grounds for a criminal conviction.
David Elliott, Brighton, UK
Is alchohol really so important to those people that object.....if so I think they have a real problem...
As for mobiles and texting....yes those with low iqs do......they will only change their ways if the law comes down on them really harshly...and it should.
anna, camberley,
I find it bizarre that people are so obsessed about being able to drink. It is quite simply not necessary. I do drink, but never when driving. Going out is about enjoying the company you keep or the place you go to. If you need to drink to enjoy an evening, what does it say about your friends?!
Ben Adamson, Manchester,
The reason Britain has lost its place at the top of road safety league tables is down to the huge increase of foreign drivers on our roads, both trucks and cars from the EU. We regularly hear reports of such cars crashing because they are driving on the right and trucks side swiping cars.
Dr Nick Ashley, Huntingdon, England
I personally feel the effects of even one drink and therefore have a personal ban on never driving having had a drink.
Others have a higher tolerance than I do and there needs to be a more definite test that someone can take before the personal decision to drive.
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P Barrett, Plymouth/Valletta, UK/Malta
Nanny state! Police state! Oh I mean... not enough nanny state! Our vulnerable lives are in danger!
Tony, Islington, London, UK
There are many other factors involved in an accident & yet all these quangos, NGO's and Labour are interested is having zero accidents a year. How is that achieved by taking through the motorist off the road through taxation & legislation & onto a unionised public transport system. Labour = anticar
steve tea, manchester, cheshire
There are many GREATER causes of death on roads that deserve more concern. Using mobiles and falling asleep whilst driving kill many more. Also, many drivers - especially the elderly - still drive despite having medical conditions that can cause blackouts/fits. Time to look at retesting at age 70.
Sarah , Battle, UK
I am sure the great legal brains could sit down and tighten the laws in every facet of our lives [ and I think they have done a lot ] but what real freedom would we have left, What would our lives look like, With cams filming us at every turn and more laws than you could shake a stick at..life sucks
Peter, Vancouver.BC, Canada
Good point Martyn: Often I have to politely explain to my passenger that concentrating on what is happening on the road is my priority rather than the distracting conversation we are having. Random testing at an arbitrary road block is a great deterrent here in Finland where 50mg is the limit.
Jonathan, Helsinki, Finland
Once again the crass stupidity of this New Labour Government is breathtaking!
There should be a total ban on drinking and driving that means "No Alcohol" whatsoever if you intend driving!
There is also a need to clamp down on those driving under the influence of illegal drugs
Stephen Holmes, Withington, UK
I dont know where you get the idea of one drink from.! I am sure people who are .08 have had more than one drink! drinking and driving DO NOT go together and it is an irresponsible government that promotes it. There is evidence that proves your drivers are impaired at .08 and even at .05. not good
fiona, victoria, australia
We have a 50mg limit in Australia yet people still drink and drive when many times over the limit.
Nick, Brisbane, Australia
maybe it it would save 65 lives, but how many other things would save 65 lives? maybe we should go back to having people walking in front of cars waving a flag.
your still going to have alchohol in your blood the afternoon after a night out, are you really going to prosecute people for that?
will, grimsby, uk
Zero tolerence here in Poland yet absolute carnage on the roads. It does not work and only catches the innocents who drank the day before.
Mike, Krakow, Poland
So have a graduated scale of drink drive offences, with under 80 *not* resulting in an automatic ban.
Dirk Bruere, Bedford, England
How many accidents are caused by children squabbling at the back of the car? Can somebody at UCL tell us? Then, perhaps, we can ban children in cars, along with mobiles etc.
Martyn, London,